You Tube: Dr. Carolyn T. Long’s Opinions About Dissociative Identity Disorder

Dr. Carolyn T. Long, minister and consultant, comments on multiple personalities and dissociative disorders.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zvssdsKBec

Retrieved 4/13/12.

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  1. Altus

     /  04/19/2012

    Kudos for the patience, Jeanette. MK, wishing you healing.

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  2. MK

     /  04/19/2012

    JEANETTE BARTHA, YOU ARE IN DENIAL. I KNOW MULTIPLE PERSONALITY DOES EXIST AND FOR YOU TO TELL OTHER MULTIPLES THAT IT DOESNT EXIST TELLS ME AND THEM THAT YOU ARE IN DENIAL AND MAYBE CANNOT ACCEPT THAT FACT THAT YOU! ARE ALSO A MULTIPLE AND CANNOT COME TO GRIPS WITH YOUR OWN ILLNESS. D.I.D IS A LEGIT DIAGNOSIS BUT YOUR ABUSE TO LAY ON OTHER IS CRUEL TO EVERYONE ELSE. YOU NEED TO GET PAST YOUR OWN FEAR OF YOUR ILLNESS AND GET HELP BEFORE YOU END UP HURTING SOMEONE ELSE AND HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THEMSELVES! SHAME! ON YOU FOR PLAYING A HORRIBLE GAME WITH EVERYONES HEAD. YOU ARE NOT THE BE ALL END ALL OF TRUTH. YOU DO NOT KNOW THE TRUTH. GET HELP. I THINK YOU ARE QUITE ARROGANT TO THINK YOU CAN TELL OTHERS WHAT IS OR WHAT ISN’T AND STOP SLAMMING DR LONG AND OTHER COUNSELORS AND THINKING YOU’RE BETTER THAN ALL OF US.

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    • jeanettebartha

       /  04/19/2012

      Sorry MK, I can’t be in denial for an “illness” that doesn’t exist.

      Now you are using capital letters to scream at me? Sorry, it still doesn’t make multiple personalities exist.

      Abusive? Again, just because someone does not agree with you doesn’t make them abusive.

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      • MK

         /  04/19/2012

        You are ENJOYING this aren’t you jeanettebartha, you derive some pleassure out of hurting D.I.D’s. One of your altars thinks this is funny. Well ENOUGH! of YOUR games. Whoever you are inside of jeanettebartha, you need to STOP your behavior. I know you have an altar who is doing this through you, the host, well, I have an altar that is good a dealing with this childishness. jeanettebartha you really are immature. Anyone who gets pleasure from this behavior is sick as sick or worse than D.I.D.’s At least D.I.D.’s are healthy enough to deal straight out rather than you who play headgames. You were pretty rough about Dr. Long and you KNOW it. You know, you might be a narrsasist, those who elevate themselves and think they know it all and like to put people down among a few other behaviors. I read about them and you seem close in comparison. You need to get a life and stop looking for victims on these sites. Like it or not there is a enormous group of people, medical and media(public) who KNOW D.I.D. exsists, enough of them that your opposition cant override. There are plenty of medical professionals, outside the mental health group of Drs who KNOW D.I.D. exists and it outnumbers and outweights your small group. You are not convincing anyone that something doesn’t exists when sooooooo many people HAVE proof that D.I.D. DOES exist. Try to deny it all you want, who cares, no ones listening or cares what you have to say. You’re just full of empty hot air. I really don’t care anymore. I already have believable proof.

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        • jeanettebartha

           /  04/19/2012

          Dear MK, Please check my reading list page. There are very prominent doctors and researchers who have opinions that do not support DID. You could benefit from reading opinions from someone other than me.

          I am not talking about people who believe they suffer from DID. I am talking about the profession of psychology & how it is failing miserably in treating mental illness.

          I don’t find these types of chats fun or easy for that matter. They are very difficult for me when someone like you comes here with the passion and beliefs you hold. I know you are in a lot of pain. You show clearly how much distress you are in. I have no interest in upsetting you further.

          If you need me to shut up, declare that I am a multiple, or apologize for my opinions so you can feel better about yourself at my expense, well… that will not happen.

          Instead of attacking Me, why not do some reading and learn about the messages I am offering readers? By attacking me you are diverting your attention away from gaining what I see as valuable and life-saving information.

          If you need to be aggressive towards me, nasty, resort to name calling, that’s OK but it doesn’t do anything or further any discussions.

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    • jeanettebartha

       /  04/19/2012

      p.s. @ MK I said nothing about Dr. Long. All I did was post a link. How do you go from seeing a link to finding me slamming her and being abusive. That’s not logical thinking.

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  3. Altus

     /  04/18/2012

    MK, can you tell me where Jeanette has been abusive? She had a therapist who led her to believe she had DID and that made her suffer greatly. She is not alone. I do not wish to attack you. I am very concerned for people who go through DID therapy. The statistics are not good.This therapy that treats people as “parts” is highly controversial in the medical community. People go through it for years and often lose jobs, relationships, and the ability to function in society…which they had before they were diagnosed. I wish you peace and healing.

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    • MK

       /  04/18/2012

      I tell ya, this sounds like therapists bashing. I think its infantile. Until my current therapist entered my life NO one wanted to work with me thinking I was a schizophrenic and other titles. When I learned I had D.I.D. I FINALLY had something to call my disorder instead of being in the dark. Jeanette was abusive in trying to justify her criticizing me and others with D.I.D. which is abusive to ignore someone because they are different from you and have an type of mental illness. JUST BECAUSE YOU DONT BELIEVE IN SOMETHING DOES NOT MAKE IT INVALID! I could think of many incidences where someone was invalidated simply on the basis that the critic did not agree with what someone had or was. There is something wrong here with you and Dr. Long that you HAVE to make yourselves feel good about yourselves by degrading and invalidating another simply on the basis that they are NOT what YOU think they should be or shouldn’t be. I am tired of having to measure up to that mentality. It speaks volumes of immaturity on the Professinals side and Jeanettes. I would NEVER doubt someone else and there struggle, I’ve been there its tooooooooo painful to invalidate a person and their issues, IT’S ABUSIVE

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      • jeanettebartha

         /  04/19/2012

        oops. There ya go again. There is no abuse towards you. But yes, these therapists need to be taken off the streets.

        I understand your passion, your intensity, even your pain to some degree. That doesn’t make multiple personalities exist.

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    • MK

       /  04/19/2012

      I watched your video Dr. Long. I am confused by what I heard and your comment to me about D.I.D. It is conflicting. You seem understanding of D.I.D and for the most part everything related to this rare disorder, yet you appeared to come across trying to disarm it. As I said I have D.I.D. and now I am confused by how you come across here vs your video. I found myselft changing watching your video

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    • jeanettebartha

       /  04/19/2012

      @Atlus, dido. I wish all these people peace. I can’t see that happening until they get away from the DID therapy and those who sell it.

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  4. MK

     /  04/18/2012

    I can tell you from constant struggling WITHIN myself and doing a LOT of SELF examination, Multiple Personality Disorder/D.I.D. DOES exist! From TRAUMA with a LOVED one a TRUSTED one, in otherwords, someone one trusts and loves, TRAUMATISES them and they develope D.I.D. I fought with this for many years EVEN when certain professionals knew I was a Multiple and I did NOT want to accept it. They could see it in me when I could not. Finally I began to see and feel and hear what they did while working with me. It’s some of the professionals who don’t want to learn

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    • jeanettebartha

       /  04/18/2012

      ok. Do different aspects of your personality need to be named? Can’t they just be different facets of you?

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      • MK

         /  04/18/2012

        It’s called a way of identification, names or ages. There is actually more than that, there is actually a definite chemical, medical change that I feel and others see when starting to switch and change and become different and people see a definite change in me entirely and I am different and I feel it and I sometimes know it. I know when I have become different People know that I am NOT the same. It’s sad that you need affirmation for you to find a way to justify YOUR disbelief and until YOU yourself jeanettebartha actually go through this, (for lack of a better word, metamorphasis-what a butterfly does in the cacoon before it emerges to fly) you will TRY to disprove this experience. I tell ya, for a while I thought I had demons, I actually thought I had demons inside me to cause such changes. So try all you need to find an arguement with this D.I.D. issue as many do, but until YOU are actually going through this and FEELING this INSIDE yourself with NO explaination to give to explain to people what just happened to you, you will continue to be abusive with your attacks on those of us who have D.I.D. and NOT care to replace your attacks to compassion to help us since it’s abuse that caused it in the first place. It’s like fibromyalgia, before Drs. gave it a name, they said it was all in a womans head. Unexplained syptoms, which they now call fibromyalgia. I did not want to learn that I have MPD/DID I fought it all the way knowing the stigma in the medical society, sadly enough, then the public, why would I want something that everyone points at and jeers at and is aggresive towards, one would rather be dead than endure that sort of treatment. Then we get people like you who add to the torture of criticizm. I had been give NUMEROUS diagnosis including schizophrenia which later they dropped and realized they missed it, so it would be nice to have support so D.I.D.s don’t have to live in the closet, they can feel accepted for what they are working toward healing with. Think about it. I am not ashamed of what I have, but I am shamed of those who have no compassion, there is enough prejudice to last to the end of time. If you don’t understand, then learn, so you CAN help and or support those who need a friend or two or more. Be a friend not an enemy

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        • jeanettebartha

           /  04/19/2012

          MK, thank you for expressing yourself.

          What you don’t seem to know is that I went through very similar experiences as you do with changing, being someone else, feeling detached, et al.

          Many people come here and call me abusive as you did just because I disagree with the therapy you engage in.
          I do not question your sexual abuse. If you were violated, then you were violated. What’s to question? I wasn’t there.

          Another mistake people make is thinking I am adding torture? is that how you expressed it? Wow. powerful word – one I reserve for activities that go on at Guantanamo Bay.

          In the end, it you read me, you will learn that I criticize the therapy, not the victim of it.

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  5. Altus

     /  04/16/2012

    Oy, the barrier to DID is getting so low anybody might qualify. A great deal of the stuff she gets into in her video has potential other explanations. What is very concerning is she mentions people come to her not knowing they have DID and then suddenly this vulnerable population gets this DSM diagnosis from a “trusted” source. She’s a doctor!…whoops that’s a doctor of ministry not medicine. Very sad how therapists are assigning this diagnosis.

    http://www.drcarolyntlong.org/Dr%20Carolyn%20T%20Long.html

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    • Altus, yes there are many people practicing theophastic (sp) ministry. It is a serious problem as you can see, the bar is low (or perhaps on the ground) and there are few hoops to jump through to get credentials. How many religious people would not trust their clergy? Personally, I prefer my hairdresser.

      All we can do, and thanks for the link, is call out these people with the hopes of showing mental health consumers what type of “therapy” is out there and what they may fall into unexpectedly.

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      • Altus

         /  04/16/2012

        From the school where Ms. Long got her degree: “We do not grant academic degrees in the Arts or Sciences. We are a Bible college.” So I can’t get an undergraduate degree in English there but I can call myself a “doctor”?

        One wonders why she uses “Dr.” for a DID video and posts it on Youtube. Is she hoping people will confuse her with a medical doctor?

        As I posted in another video, the trust issue among therapists is a very concerning factor in the whole DID resurgence. IMHO, you can be convinced of more by people you “trust” than those you don’t. These therapists might be kindly and sympathetic, but they are engaging in a potentially harmful game when it comes to DID. They, the therapists, are convinced DID exists. They convince their patients and thus starts the transference and counter-transference cycle that results in discovery of more and more personalities (and more and more clients…I think Ms. Long refers to her “DID patients.”) The client gets worse, not better, needing more therapy…not to recover from DID, but to recover from the hell this therapy has made descend into. It’s very sad.

        This is one of the “tests” they tried to use in the Harris trial. It was thrown out. The questions mirror a lot of the stuff Ms. Long uses in her video. An absent-minded professor or a person on the sleep aid ambien would probably flunk. To make diagnosis based on questions like this is absurd.

        http://counsellingresource.com/lib/quizzes/misc-tests/des/

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        • jeanettebartha

           /  04/19/2012

          Dr. Laura, the TV/radio personality who gave psychological advise was a doctor. If I recall correctly, she did not tell the public it was in biology. Technically, she may have had a doctorate, but the public deceived when they thought she was a psychologist.

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