Jenny Hill’s Open Letter about Her Appearance on the Dr. Phil Show

http://22faces.com/jenny-hills-open-letter-dr-phil/

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  1. avalon111

     /  01/18/2013

    ‘None of the recent surveys is compatible with the Kinsey report, or with each other. They vary in their definitions of ‘child’ and ‘sexual abuse’, in the populations studied, in the research methods used and in the analysis of the data. One of the most frequently cited recent American surveys was conducted by Dr Diana Russell in 1978. Like Saphira, Russell was a radical feminist. Prior to her survey, she authored The Politics of Rape (1975) and edited the Proceedings of the International Tribunal on Crimes against Women (1976). In Mental Health News, Hilary Haines hailed Russell’s survey as the first major random sample survey since Kinsey. However, on closer examination, Russell’s face-to-face questionnaire seemed designed to uphold, rather than to test, her radical feminist view of male sexuality. Of the 50 percent of Russell’s sample who agreed to be interviewed, 38 percent (1 in 2.6) reported sexual abuse before the age of 18. As Haines pointed out, Russell achieved this startling result despite the definition of abuse being limited to direct physical contact. But (as Haines failed to point out) Russell’s definition included everyday aspects of family life like unwanted hugs and kisses. Also, in contrast to Kinsey’s age based on definition of adult-child sexual contacts, Russell’s definition included ‘sexual abuse by peers and other children’. In one instance Russell classified ‘unwanted but non-forceful kissing by a cousin’ as sexual abuse.

    Though she found that child sexual abuse was alarmingly common, Russell suspected the true figure was higher still. ‘There may be a significant number of women who have repressed such experiences from their conscious memories’, she wrote in 1983. Russell provided no scientific support for that claim, but, thanks to the early-’80s proliferation of recovered memory stories, none was needed. Michelle Remembers (1980), and the books and articles that followed in its wake, persuaded feminist therapists and their clients that, if they kept up the therapy for long enough, memories of sexual abuse were bound to surface. Michelle Remembers – which was later shown to be a hoax – also revived a belief that had fallen into disrepute in the wake of the great witch-hunts: that children could be brutally molested as part of Satanic rituals.’

    (page 54 A City Possessed – The Christchurch Civic Creche Case by Lynley Hood, Longacre 2001 – see extracts at http://menz.org.nz/cosa/city-possessed/)

    American feminisms guilt in promoting the SRA Myth craze, the subsequent Recovered memory inkdustry and the DID/MPS industry (all connected) is being increasingly recognised. “What isn’t being recognised is that many US and UK feminist academics are busily still promoting all three to new audiences.

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    • Jeanette Bartha

       /  01/21/2013

      Are feminists really promoting this? I need to do some reading in this area. Thx for the info.

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  2. avalon111

     /  01/18/2013

    Belief in Jenny’s story comes at a price for some.

    Because you also have to believe, without question, voluntary levitation (daft satanists flying over the American countryside at will) paranormal powers, and a hoot-load of magical powers attributed to the alleged Nazi satanists who don’t appear to use said powers to rob banks, assasinate Presidents etc. but rather only use them to abuse the likes of Jenny Hill.

    Jenny Hill’s anonymous abusers weren’t rich and living in splendour (which I would be if I had any of their ‘powers’) but instead seemed to be lacking in any imagination as to how to use such powers to their gain.

    But the special powers attributed to these anonymous abusers could easily be captured on film – particularly the levitation. In a world of digital camera built-into mobile phones, how do these Nazi satanist escape detection through compelling evidence being released anonymously?

    Strangely enough one group who are willing to accept such powers exist and that Jenny’s story should be accepted as the cast-iron truth exists in the Women’s Studies faculty of my university. Some somewhat militant feminist academics amongst this department have whole-heartedly rejected Cartesian logic and what they call ‘patriarchal science’ – and will believe everything and anything supposely written by a ‘victim’ as unquestionable truth.

    Trying to promote ‘Twenty-two Faces’ to their young feminist students to-date hasn’t worked too well to date apparently. In the past though, the same lecturers promoted ‘Michelle Remembers’ and asking students to write essays on the benefits of Shariah Law for women left ‘Dramatis’ with two escapees from the Women’s Studies course who acted as interns for the editors.

    ‘Michelle Remembers’ still appears on reading lists for various courses and it can be a bit disturbing to go to a party at a feminists house and find this book nestled in amongst Andrea Dworkin and Gloria Steinem (though Gloria is a confirmed believer in SRA and DID/MPD). In the future I anticipate finding ‘Twenty-two Faces’ on the same bookshelves.

    I reckon Twenty-two Faces will be regarded as a ‘feminist classic’ inside five years, and though-of in the same way many US and UK feminists regard ‘Michelle Remembers’.

    I imagine we will collect more bright-eyed and bushy-tailed former feminists in the future!

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    • Jeanette Bartha

       /  01/18/2013

      I sure hope you are wrong about 22 Faces becoming a feminist classic. I hope women have learned the art of skepticism in the past 25 years.

      22 Faces is poorly written. It is contrived and disorganized – for that reason alone, it is not a good read. The author’s point-of-view shifts constantly from an all-knowing point-of-view to one that is not. The author picks a topic – like losing time, and then writes the chapter around it. It is constantly frustrating – for me.

      If one reads this book with a discerning eye it shows many inconsistencies and implausible plots – which I’ll point out in a future post.

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  3. Jess

     /  01/17/2013

    I was just scanning through the net looking for information on disassociation and hand writing and your blog popped up. As a “victim” of childhood sexual abuse, I know first hand the scary aspects of disassociation. I say victim in quotes because I am not ready to lose the title and conform to the worlds opinions that I will one day be a survivor. Regardless, what struck me was your adamant disapproval of your DID disorder and the extent to which you have gone to seek “justice” for said false diagnoses. For as long as I can remember I have dissociated and for as long as I can remember people around me have denied it until this year. I do not claim to have DID, nor do I WANT that disorder, but what I do know is that our brain is a very complex organ that has not only physical components, but spiritual as well.

    It is impossible to identify every facet of the brain or presume to know something can not exist in one, if that person is not physically in the body. That being said the one aspect that turns so many away from this disorder is that it goes so far beyond our knowing. How is it possible that ONE organ in ONE body can morph into different personalities? On the other hand, how do we know that people arent just great actors? Not only this, but how terrifying to realize that you aren’t in control of your body.

    I am not saying that actual separation of personalities (alters) is real, but what I am saying is that I know first hand how I can feel like I am 5 and not be able to get out of that mentality until I color or am cradled. I too have different hand writings throughout my journaling. I believe this is the physical representation of the different emotions my body is currently feeling and not that of different alters, with my little knowledge of you, I would say this was the same for you.

    My point of this msg is to voice my opinion on this passionate movement you have made. I disagree in the falsehood of the diagnosis and instead state that it is VERY hard to be diagnosed. I am sorry you were misdiagnosed, but I hope you are getting the treatment you need. I simply pray your resistance to a “reason” doesn’t inhibit you from recovering from your earlier trauma. We are sadly not in a small population of victims of this nature and I believe it is our duty to support and love one another, not discredit or disregard real emotions.

    JT

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    • Jeanette Bartha

       /  01/18/2013

      Hello JT, Thank you for stopping by and leaving a comment.

      First I want to make it clear that I have had no trauma to recover from. What was “remembered” in therapy was not true.

      Perhaps there is another way for you to view the experiences you mention.

      We all dissociate. We all do not develop multiple personalities. Why not call it meditation? Why not call it self-hypnosis?

      I don’t agree that someone can morph into “others”. In other cultures, there is spirit possession and the like but they don’t continue to live in that state and then name every spirit they believe inhibited their mind, body, and soul. Americans, and those who follow us, take normal human conditions like you mentioned – the need to be cradled, feeling like a kid – and pathologize it. What if you experienced those emotions and needs and viewed them as normal instead of alter personalities? If you do, you may find freedom from psychiatry and the need to pigeon hole emotional states into a psychiatric diagnosis. Just sayin’

      If indeed, you don’t want this diagnosis – reject it and start viewing yourself as a normal/average person dealing with trauma from your past. It’s an option whether or not you want to believe that. Just read this blog and you will find others who share my experiences. You will also find others who believe they have multiple personalities – what they are actually experiencing, IMHO, is normal human emotions. It truly is that simplistic if you pear it to the bare bones.

      Everyone has different handwriting depending on the place and time. Sometimes we are in a hurry and rush our letters; when mad we write more boldly – etc.

      It appears as if you have gulped down the MPD/DID theory and if you follow that path I can see a time when life disintegrates, memories of events plague your mind, and overall health is replaced with incapacitating dysfunction – just read blogs written by people who believe they have multiple personalities – no need to take my word for it.

      I wish the best for you and hope you can find a way to define yourself as “normal” not a survivor, victim or other word that is the opposite of a vibrant human being with endless capacity to enjoy and love life.

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      • Jess

         /  01/18/2013

        Sorry- I thought I clicked onto a blog from you that talked about a flashback, my mistake.

        I also want to clarify that I am not believing I have DID/MPD simply because I disassociate, nor do my therapists. I was simply commenting on your disbelief of this disorder and acknowledging that I wouldn’t want to be diagnosed with it, or have it because “how scary to not have control of your own body or memories. My disassociation is merely a symptom of my PTSD as well as the dissociative amnesia I have about my childhood abuse. I think your use of the term “normal” is implying that mental disorders make people abnormal, and unfortunately it is this thinking that inhibits people truly in need of therapy and medications seeking therapy for fear of them being labeled as abnormal. Since your credentials say you have a masters in psychology, I urge you to watch the way you use words.

        As we see the DSM evolve further into out scientific understanding the of the brain, I believe we are going to see more clear cut explanations for disorders. Perhaps DID is nor more than humans acting out in the feelings they are experiencing. As I said before, I too have my skepticism on the actualization of alters taking on personalities, names and relationships of their own. At the same time, I never understood those moments when I felt like a 5 year old until later in my therapy when I was able to connect it to disassociation. I would imagine, IF this disorder truly does exist, it’s “sufferers” want answers for why they can’t remember things.

        Sorry for the confusion. I enjoyed reading your research and thoughts though! Best of luck!

        JT

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        • Jeanette Bartha

           /  01/18/2013

          Hi JT,

          Normal was not a good word choice – I would prefer to use usual, common, ordinary.

          Your healthy skepticism will likely keep you safe from therapy traps I fell into. Asking questions, reading, and conversing will keep you educated. I had none of those options.

          Again, what you describe as feeling like a 5 year old is an experience we all have. Why pathologize it?

          Memory isn’t the pristine recording device as I learned it was in college. Remembering is a mixture of fact, fancy, and fill-in-the-blanks. That is not to say that memories are wrong or lies.

          I sure hope you don’t fall into DID therapy as I did. I lost 10 years of my life – gone. There is much to lose. There are lots of other therapists and treatments out there with good records of helping people heal from trauma and abuse. Why not try one with a track record of helping rather than DID therapy that has none of it?

          Hope you’ll come back and tell me more about what’s on your mind. Best.

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